tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post4204245635598659878..comments2023-11-05T01:32:11.180-08:00Comments on RDOA: Update: IV CPC Rank Pay CaseRDOAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05575057432350340665noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-24140313531021555082013-07-25T00:05:53.770-07:002013-07-25T00:05:53.770-07:00Today's news in Mail Today is sickening.As was...Today's news in Mail Today is sickening.As was expected, the Govt is dithering & delaying to correctly implement the HSCJudgement. It is high time we go to the SC for contempt petition.Other related issues like Broad banding of Disability,for which the govt has put up a review petition should also be taken up.The Govt is just waiting for general elections & the new govt to sort out rank pay caseAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08926721108773734588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-644704068460448662013-07-24T03:12:23.048-07:002013-07-24T03:12:23.048-07:00chowpc Thanks finally I managed to stumble upon th...chowpc Thanks finally I managed to stumble upon the list.But I don,t think I will be able to provide them all the documents and so will be the case with other officers retired long back.Any way thanks for the concern and trouble taken to guide me.Calls to AFCAO on the matter were fruitless<br />Wg Cdr PPS Bainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04710521345246062042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-77026930618822876992013-07-20T07:01:46.661-07:002013-07-20T07:01:46.661-07:00Wg Cdr PPS Bains, Pl see the
Air Force Website as ...Wg Cdr PPS Bains, Pl see the<br />Air Force Website as mentioned by you.<br />Chowpcchowpchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12323706715215106883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-60712371976878173502013-07-20T04:14:25.402-07:002013-07-20T04:14:25.402-07:00@corona8:" Sir, I have been following the dev... @corona8:" Sir, I have been following the developments and am also of the opinion that the DGL is the correct implementation for us. My comments are for the Babus to realise their folly of not implementing the SC verdict. The DGL covers all aspects and affects everyone uniformly.manu69https://www.blogger.com/profile/10803426273057923759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-84032621980865702522013-07-19T23:43:37.567-07:002013-07-19T23:43:37.567-07:00One shall read the happening & the judgement o...One shall read the happening & the judgement of HC of Raj dated 19-7-13 publish with heading<br />"JAB DANDA parta he tohi kam hota he" <br />It is a judgement on contempt of court similar to RDOA contempt court being done in SC.<br />It is very Morale boostig for all of us.<br />Acutting of it i have send to RDOAon their E mail for informing to all. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09263487860711444439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-75850963001456374252013-07-19T22:03:54.277-07:002013-07-19T22:03:54.277-07:00@manu69: Paras 4 & 5 of your comment simply ig...@manu69: Paras 4 & 5 of your comment simply ignore the essence of what the whole issue is, what RDOA have been stating in the blog posts and what others have outlined in their own blogs. Please read the services HQs DGL. That is a clear indicator of what the resolution needs to be.corona8https://www.blogger.com/profile/14443791458911191943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-40717821331775889292013-07-19T11:07:40.398-07:002013-07-19T11:07:40.398-07:00FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
1. RDOA is progressing the case ...FOOD FOR THOUGHT.<br />1. RDOA is progressing the case well and we all expect a favourable outcome in the near future.<br />2. Opinion of the AG is also awaited.<br />3. The AG and the govt should realise that they are fighting a losing battle. My views in this regard are:-<br />4. The 4th CPC anomaly has been perceived to be rectified by the govt order of Dec 12. But they should realise that the same fiasco was done in 5th CPC wherein pay was fixed after deducting Rank Pay. We were waiting for the court judgement which has been correctly pronounced to refix pay of offrs wef 1/1/86. But the govt seems to be adamant.<br />5. since there is a precedent of illegal deduction of RP, What is there to stop case being filed for 5th CPC irregularity. The courts will be flooded with nearly 50,000 offrs filing cases. The outcome would be that orders for 5th CPC amendment would be issued. <br />6. for the 6th CPC, the stumbling block is Lt Col not being Grade Pay of 8700 and an adhoc GP{ of 8000 being given. This also can be contested by the clause of rank pay forming part of Basic Pay. 13500+1600=15100. when a civil scale of 14300 is given GP 8700, how can 15100 be fixed in a lower Grade. correspondingly the GP of Col/Brig/Maj Gen will have to be revised upwards.<br />7. I agree there will be some offrs who will be adversely affected with a miniscule amount of arrears. (In the present scenario also I saw somewhere that a Maj Gen has recd a pittance of approx 500/.)<br />8. Major with 21 yrs during 5th CPC is also entitled to RP of Lt Col at 21 yrs. So in 6th CPC he has to be fixed at 8700.<br />9. An offr commissioned after 1/1/86 will have even after calculations as per DGL of TRIPAS, arrears of 4th CPC 15000 approx. The arrears of 5th CPC adds up to 2.3 lac.<br />10. in 6th CPC by accepting that Lt Col Basic is 15100, the arrears due are 5.37 lac.<br />10. My views are that we patiently wait for the outcome of the RDOA offensive. if the outcome is not favourable then my thoughts as above can be considered.<br />11. Any suggestions please.manu69https://www.blogger.com/profile/10803426273057923759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-47656219712226677412013-07-19T06:29:02.704-07:002013-07-19T06:29:02.704-07:00@ravi mahajan: You should seriously examine the po...@ravi mahajan: You should seriously examine the possibility of sending a specific legal contempt notice to your payment agency as well as their auditors who would have signed on the dues-drawn document. Yours is not an isolated report about the Air Force payment office. They should have at the very least complied with the Govt letter by the last date set by the HSC. It is being reported the uniform'd personnel are more insensitive than even the civilians at PCDA(O).Dhoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461434428038701574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-64820452696674307772013-07-19T05:48:35.744-07:002013-07-19T05:48:35.744-07:00@sunlit, may surprise you but it is fact that Air ...@sunlit, may surprise you but it is fact that Air Force HAS NOT CALCULATED DA on Rank Pay. I have written to AOC, AFCAO and DAV. I also spoke to AOC, who will look into it. I request all members to please check, I am sure it is not given.<br />After the notice to Def Sec and others 2 months ago, outcome of this was not known, so the impression ! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02121161097250657781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-83486636470009832752013-07-19T02:29:37.816-07:002013-07-19T02:29:37.816-07:00chowpc Thanks .But where is the list available.chowpc Thanks .But where is the list available.Wg Cdr PPS Bainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04710521345246062042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-2162736201038979682013-07-18T21:34:42.798-07:002013-07-18T21:34:42.798-07:00@ravi Mahajan:"...under the impression...&quo...@ravi Mahajan:"<i>...under the impression...</i>" What could have caused this manner of jumping to wrong conclusions is a mystery all would like to learn more about. Does the d and d statement issued by your payment agency not reflect the da paid and due as part of total paid and dues amount?<br /><br />If it does not, have you written to the payment authorities? If not, could you share why not?slhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01783279172831388828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-62338952822220947832013-07-18T18:48:54.939-07:002013-07-18T18:48:54.939-07:00we were under the impression that we have already ...we were under the impression that we have already filed "contempt" case in SC. Further, AFCAO for Air Force has not added DA on the Rank Pay. AS per SC ruling, Rank Pay is also included in the Basic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02121161097250657781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-2903638257331032292013-07-17T10:05:59.260-07:002013-07-17T10:05:59.260-07:00Wg Cdr PPS Bains Pl see sl no 189 in the list of o...Wg Cdr PPS Bains Pl see sl no 189 in the list of officers whose IRLA are not traceable or are in badly mutilated condition. Pl send the details as asked for and as available with you.<br />chowpcchowpchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12323706715215106883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-37818038636098296562013-07-17T01:50:37.847-07:002013-07-17T01:50:37.847-07:00Col Pardaman Singh, please file a RTI to CPIO, Off...Col Pardaman Singh, please file a RTI to CPIO, Office of the PCDA (O), Golibar Maidan, Pune attaching a Rs 10 Indian Postal Order payable at Pune to the Accounts Officer, PCDA (O). Please check this address and the payee on the PCDA (O) website.<br /><br />The request should be on plain A4 sheet - hand written or typed. <br /><br />CPIO, PCDA (O)has to reply to you within 30 days.<br /><br />It works, believe me.<br /><br />Best of LuckAerial Viewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17115360943663046368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-33203340091338451882013-07-16T19:45:23.697-07:002013-07-16T19:45:23.697-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121677855050308582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-7313409700537635072013-07-16T19:16:24.262-07:002013-07-16T19:16:24.262-07:00@Raj:"..closed group.." This is not a gr...@Raj:<i>"..closed group.."</i> This is not a <b><i>group</i></b>. Where did you get that impression?<br />It's a <b>blog</b>.<br /><br />Do you mean to say the blog should be accessible only to members of RDOA?<br /><br />Such an arrangement is possible, of course, but it would limit the outreach of RDOA and prevent others from joining RDOA.<br /><br />Ultimately, RDOA are the best judge.<br />corona8https://www.blogger.com/profile/14443791458911191943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-8774766029509458352013-07-16T10:14:02.122-07:002013-07-16T10:14:02.122-07:00 Offrs who got their arrears 6 jun on-wards are t... Offrs who got their arrears 6 jun on-wards are those whose records are not available most probably got burnt <br />PCDA(O) has not been able to upload their due/drawn statement.When contacted on tele they are not able to give satisfactory reply. It seems arrears have been worked out on adhoc basis.How to get the statements uploaded?<br />Col Pardaman Singh Pardaman Singhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08223680030257003452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-42838617199524807252013-07-16T09:28:37.181-07:002013-07-16T09:28:37.181-07:00This should be a closed group only for members. This should be a closed group only for members. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-27783048520080951542013-07-15T10:04:50.569-07:002013-07-15T10:04:50.569-07:00The inevitable has materialised at the appropriate...The inevitable has materialised at the appropriate moment.<br />I have a feeling it is just a question of time before we are given our rihtful 7 well deserved dues with the good job done by RDOA.<br />We all have faith in SC & ALMIGHTY.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394660264100745957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-35961796623643966382013-07-15T03:02:19.834-07:002013-07-15T03:02:19.834-07:00@Wg Cdr PPS Bains: It would be best to contact the...@Wg Cdr PPS Bains: It would be best to contact the Officer I/C of your Rank Pay Cell in person. I have heard there are a few issues with the manner in which the IAF payment agency has implemented the Govt instructions for payment of arrears for veteran-friends of IAF.<br /><br />Its bad enough the implementation letter itself falls well short of ensuring justice. On top of that if the respective Pay Offices, CDA's and auditors start causing additional damage, that would be the height of crookedness.Dhoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461434428038701574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-14303458738457344942013-07-15T01:23:29.058-07:002013-07-15T01:23:29.058-07:00AFCAO web site displays a list of officers whose d...AFCAO web site displays a list of officers whose documents are recd and 2nd list of officers whose documents are not recd. My name like many other officers is not on either list. On contacting they say that your case is under observation, God knows for what and will be resolved in a week. That week has not come for few months. Some enlightenment is needed.Wg Cdr PPS Bainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04710521345246062042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-66717624632922943182013-07-14T22:29:36.094-07:002013-07-14T22:29:36.094-07:00@Alok Asthana: I agree with you that all affected ...@Alok Asthana: I agree with you that all affected parties should minimally be members. At the same time, till such a happy situation comes about, even non-members contribute with inputs and counter-views. It keeps the discussion vibrant.<br /><br />But, as others have pointed out elsewhere, there may well be a need to curb spam, regardless of the fact whether it is from members or non-members.Dhoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461434428038701574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-58804094039661270302013-07-14T21:50:21.662-07:002013-07-14T21:50:21.662-07:00@Dhoop - Am simply not interested in the role of n...@Dhoop - Am simply not interested in the role of non-members. The members, however, should have some role in the functioning of the organisation. Whoever heard of one in which members and non-members are treated alike. <br />See no reason for people to not pay the small amount of Rs 1500/-, but still have their say as vociferously as others who do.Alok Asthanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362507906160748320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-50751487276614718642013-07-14T19:46:59.782-07:002013-07-14T19:46:59.782-07:00@Alok Asthana:"...casual bloggers.." I s...@Alok Asthana:<i>"...casual bloggers.."</i> I suppose you'd meant <i>casual</i> comment-makers on this blog.<br /><br />How do you propose RDOA create this "Dress Circle" for <i>members</i> on the blog?<br /><br />Do you feel the blog should be <b>read only</b> for non-members and comments should be allowed only if posted by <i>members</i>?<br /><br />Or do you want the blog itself to be made accessible by password only for <i>members</i>?<br /><br />I wonder what RDOA would have to say on that line of thinking.Dhoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461434428038701574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8802975274436656078.post-6406989367703051552013-07-14T06:37:22.269-07:002013-07-14T06:37:22.269-07:00The frustration of RDOA members is not surprising....The frustration of RDOA members is not surprising. While RDOA must maintain the secrecy of dates and names, they need to treat members a little more sensitively. <br />An organisation is made up of members too, and not just the secretary and the president. Am at a loss to understand the role of members here. You need to differentiate between members and casual bloggers.Alok Asthanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362507906160748320noreply@blogger.com