This has been taken from Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) of CDAO Pune website:pcdaopune.gov.in
Readers are requested to see this website also to get themselves updated as to what CDAO is upto. RDOA in any case is monitoring it.
In the meantime lot of info has been obtained through RTI suffucient to file contempt proceedings. Action is in hand.
Readers are requested to see this website also to get themselves updated as to what CDAO is upto. RDOA in any case is monitoring it.
In the meantime lot of info has been obtained through RTI suffucient to file contempt proceedings. Action is in hand.
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Q.2
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I was Lt. Col. as on 01-01-1986
and retired on 01-08-95. I was promoted to the rank of Col on 05-06-1986 and
Brig on 03-06-92. Therefore, I am entitled to get arrears of Rank pay @ Rs.
800/- per month w.e.f. 01-01-86 to 04-06-86,
@ Rs. 1000/- per month w.e.f. 05-06-86 to 02-06-92 and Rs. 1200/- per month w.e.f. 03-06-92 till date of retirement. I have been paid much less than that. How?
Some aspects to be made clear
here-
E.g.
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Officer is Lt Col as on 01.01.86
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Effective
Date & Casualty
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Before
Revision
Basic Pay + Rank Pay |
After
Revision
Basic Pay + Rank Pay |
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01-01-86 (4th CPC)
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4050 + 800
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4650 + 800
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01-06-86 (Incr)
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4200 + 800
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4800 + 800
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05-06-86 (Prom to Col)
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4500 + 1000
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4800 + 1000
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01-06-87 (Incr)
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4650 + 1000
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4950 + 1000
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01-06-88 (Incr)
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4800 + 1000
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5100 + 1000
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01-06-89 (Incr)
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4950 + 1000
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5100 + 1000
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01-06-90 (Incr)
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5100 + 1000
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5100
+ 1000 + 150(Stag)
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01-06-91 (Incr)
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5100 + 1000
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5100
+ 1000 + 150(Stag)
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01-06-92 (Incr)
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5100 + 1000 + 150(Stag)
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5100
+ 1000 + 200(Stag)
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03-06-92 (Prom of Brig)
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5100 + 1200
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5100
+ 1200
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Note
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Note 2 Note 3 |
Even though Rank Pay corresponding
to the rank held by the officer on 01/01/86 is Rs 800/-, the difference
officer gets now is only Rs 600/-
When the officer gets promotion to Colonel, his pay doesn’t get any hike (after revision now) as he was already drawing more than the minimum admissible to Colonel. Pay in the revised scale and pre-revised scale becomes equal on the date of promotion of Brig. i.e. 03-06-92 in this case. Hence, no further arrears are admissible thereafter. It is evident that with every promotion, the difference in Revised & Pre-revised Pay is reducing. |
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Q.3
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Why no further increments have
been admitted to me in ‘Revised Pay’ after my Basic Pay reached the scale of
Rs. 5100/- w.e.f. 01-06-89 ? My Rank at that time was Lt. Col.
During 4th CPC, Rs. 5100/- was the
maximum scale admissible for the Ranks from Major to Brig. Maximum scale for
Maj. Gen was Rs. 6700/- In case the Basic pay of any officer of the rank of
Major, Lt Col or Col reached Rs. 5100/- during
4th CPC, i.e. between 01-01-86 to 31-12-95, the officer was entitled for only two Stagnation Increments which were admissible only after every two years. The rates of Stagnation Increments were Rs. 150/- and Rs. 200/- only. In case of Brigadier, three Stagnation Increments were admissible @ Rs. 200/-, Rs. 300/- and Rs. 400/-. |
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In the case of Maj, Lt. Col. &
Col.-
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In the revised scale, if the
officer reached Rs. 5100/- w.e.f. 01-06-89,
1st Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-91 = Rs. 150/- per month 2nd Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-93 = Rs. 200/- per month No further Stagnation Increment will be admissible on 01-06-95 since only two Stagnation Increments are admissible to Major, Lt. Col and Col. |
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In the case of Brigadier-
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In the revised scale, if the
officer reached Rs. 5100/- w.e.f. 01-06-89,
1st Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-91 = Rs. 200/- per month 2nd Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-93 = Rs. 300/- per month 3rd Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-95 = Rs. 400/- per month |
18 comments:
Request you to file contempt proceedings at the earliest aand teach the babus who intentionally keep delaying implementation of SC order.
Also kindly take up for action against the erring govt servants in the MOD MOF who have twisted facts to get incorrect orders from higher ups. once they know that we would take action against any negligent attitude about Def officers they will automatically fall in line
The answers are by RDOA or CDA O ? Does the end scale of 5100 remains same ? Is it not going to be 5100+1200 since start scale should be +200.
2. Air Mashl Savur has done excellent work thru RTI, CAn you co-opt him in our efforts to get justice ?
This is by way of feedback.
RDOA continues to benefit thousands of retired officers and some still serving.
The initiatives undertaken and information made available have served the veteran officer community on a scale so vast that it can't be readily described.
There are some points regarding the last few blog-posts:
*The formatting and alignment of blog-posts with effrct from 29 March 2013 need to be rectified.
*It is not clear which points covered in blog-post dated 29 March 2013 relate to the rank-pay judgement and which ones are points on anomalies not related to the rank-pay case.
*Whether the entire blog post dated 19 April 2013 is a reproduction of material available on the CDA web-site or whether some clarifications or annotations have been made by RDOA for illustrating anomalies and if so, which is which?
I feel time for initiating contempt proceedings without any further delay has finally arrived!!
"CONTEMPT OF COURT PETITION" CAN ONLY BE FILED AFTER 31 MAY 2013
"The Court was Magnanimous and gave UOI time till 31 May 2013
The court ordered that all beneficiaries both serving and retired should be paid by that time"
~ NOW THE "CONTEMPT OF COURT PETITION" SHOULD CONTAIN "TIME VALUE OF MONEY"
Revising Pension and payment of arrears to those entitled has also to be Completed before 31 May 13, if its is not done the case for this also has to be filed.
Dear all, from the Q-A, it is seen that the increment given in the earlier rank scale is eting the major portion of the rank pay.
Is it not fair to add increments in ther new pay scale also? in this case, the difference may be maintained but certainly not diminishing.
submitted for your views please. sorry if i am wrong.
v.sundaresan
As per the 5th CPC one increment in the new scale of pay is to be given for 3 increments earned in the old scale. This is not being implemented by PCDA as they are taking support of SAI 1/S/87 where min basic for Majs, LCol, Col & Brig is given. The scale of
pay was 3000-5100 for these ranks hence the increments earned should be taken from 3000, the sanctity of SAI as it is has been violated by MOD hence they cannot take shelter of the SAI to deny legitimate entitlements as it has not issued an Amendment to the SAI but issued a letter of partial modification applicable to only a set of officers which is violative of Article 14 as equality among AF personnel has gone for a Six. Regards
@Dhoop, nobody is perfect. Or why will God give us the hearing impaired, the vision impaired, the speech impaired and the MoD?
@Voice in the Wilderness: Your 'nobody is perfect' comment mocks physical infirmities of disabled or physically-challenged individuals who brave great odds to overcome these handicaps.
To make light of such difficulties, by comparing typographical errors or deliberate wrong-doing by officialdom to situations that ought to warrant empathy and solidarity is, to say the least, not in the best of tastes.
Sir, The pay fixation for 5th CPC is being done in a very wrong manner by PCDA , though English is a foreign language we have enough knowledge thst Babus cannot fool us. As per 5th CPC we are to get one increments for every 3 increments in the old scale. Babus are inventing scales for each Rank, while the minimum service has been prescribed for each rank and to protect them . The scale of pay remains 3000-5100 so increments have to be calculated based on the old scale of pay , that ensures that a person who is at the maximum of the scale 5100 gets fixed at the highest of the new scale. I request all affected offrs/Vetrans to make a repreentation to PCDA with copies to CGDA & RM
Is it true there will be no HRA arrears as was mentioned in this comment?
Will those who were pensioners with retired status as on 1-1-86 , and had their pension refixed through a revised notional basic pay,
also be paid arrears after recomputing the revised basic pay . Is RDOA also fighting for them or only for those who were in service as on 1-1-86
@MSKRAO
i feel thrtr is no embargo on filing a contempt of court petition even now as it has been amply proven that we are not getting what we are entitled.
Let SC then decide whether further waiting till 31 May is reqd or not.
In my opinion we will be saving time this way.However final decision obviously is with RDOA.
kindly refer to...
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20130502/nation.htm#9
"Give anomaly arrears to all Central Govt Pensioners from 2006: HC"
Hello! RDOA,
The above HC judgement has brought Cheers to all Central Govt Pensioners..
Q1. What implications does this HC Judgement have on the Rank Pay Case ?
Q2. What about anomaly arrears in Rank Pay Case from 2006 ?
Q3. Will you like to include the same in the Contempt Petition ?
Basically govt order dated 17 Jan 2013 for Defence officers highlighting the effective date as 24 Dec was a biggest joke and clueless .The financial effect was certainly was due wef 1 Jan 2006 not the date of signing/approval date as decided by the ..........
High has rightly passed orders and it is a shame on the part of ....
Need be there such careless and clueless orders be highlighted in contempt court that how careful is our .....
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