Membership RDOA

Officers who are depositing membership amt of Rs 1500/- through NEFT/RTGS (on line tfr) / cash deposit in the account of RDOA are requested to follow it up with email giving detail of tfred amt and date or screen shot of the tfr to facilitate traceability and accounting.

For ONLINE Transfer

1. Bank Account name: RETIRED DEFENCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION

 

2. Acct No: 9030-201-0079227

  3.Bank Name & Branch: Syndicate Bank, DSOI Dhaula Kuan, New Delhi 110010

4. IFSC Code:SYNB0009030

Kindly ensure that your name is also transmitted for easy traceability.

 

Also send your service particulars by email/post. Performa given

Submit the following details along with the membership fees.

(a)    Service No
(b)   Date of Commission
(c)    Arm / Service
(d)   Name(as per service records)
(e)    Rank held as on 01/01/1986
(f)    Date of retirement
(g)   Rank held at the time of retirement
(h)   PPO No
(i)     CDA (O) Account No
(j)     Address for comn
(k)   Mobile / Tele No
(l)     Email ID

 

Update IV CPC Rank Pay Case: Serving of Legal Notice

AS ON 06 MAY 13

Serving of Legal Notice

 As a prelude to ‘Contempt action’ proceedings, RDOA has served legal notice through its advocates to the Defence Secretary, Secretary Def Finance, Secretary Expenditure (MoF) and CGDA to comply with the Hon’ble Supreme Court judgment dated 04 Sept 12 in letter and spirit by 31 May 13 failing which they all will be susceptible / liable  to contempt of HSC court order.

 Since CDAO Pune and CDA Pension come under CGDA no separate notice has been given to them.

 This for info of all concerned.

SOME MORE TRUTH's

This has been taken from Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) of CDAO Pune website:pcdaopune.gov.in
Readers are requested to see this website also to get themselves updated as to what CDAO is upto. RDOA in any case is monitoring it.
In the meantime lot of info has been obtained through RTI suffucient to file contempt proceedings. Action is in hand.

Q.2 Ans.	I was Lt. Col. as on 01-01-1986 and retired on 01-08-95. I was promoted to the rank of Col on 05-06-1986 and Brig on 03-06-92. Therefore, I am entitled to get arrears of Rank pay @ Rs. 800/- per month w.e.f. 01-01-86 to 04-06-86, @ Rs. 1000/- per month w.e.f. 05-06-86 to 02-06-92 and Rs. 1200/- per month w.e.f. 03-06-92 till date of retirement. I have been paid much less than that. How? Some aspects to be made clear here- Your arrears are not directly proportional to either of the following- Rank Pay of the rank held by you on 01/01/86 Your service after 01/01/86 Your seniority Deduction of Rank Pay (made at the time of fixing pay in 4th CPC) was not necessarily equal to the Rank Pay of the rank held by the officer on 01/01/86. Therefore now after revision, the difference of pay one is going to get needs not be equal to the Rank Pay of the rank held on 01/01/86. Even this difference diminishes and gets less when officer gets subsequent promotions or at the time of fixation in subsequent Pay Commissions. It is because officer’s Basic Pay is upgraded to the minimum of the scale of next rank (on promotion) or new scales (new CPC). Actually it becomes zero on 01/01/96 in most of the cases. E.g.
	Officer is Lt Col as on 01.01.86
	Effective Date & Casualty	Before Revision Basic Pay + Rank Pay	After Revision Basic Pay + Rank Pay
	01-01-86 (4th CPC)		4050 + 800	4650 + 800
	01-06-86 (Incr)		4200 + 800	4800 + 800
	05-06-86 (Prom to Col)	4500 + 1000	4800 + 1000
	01-06-87 (Incr)	4650 + 1000	4950 + 1000
	01-06-88 (Incr)	4800 + 1000	5100 + 1000
	01-06-89 (Incr)	4950 + 1000	5100 + 1000
	01-06-90 (Incr)	5100 + 1000	5100 + 1000 + 150(Stag)
	01-06-91 (Incr)	5100 + 1000	5100 + 1000 + 150(Stag)
	01-06-92 (Incr)	5100 + 1000 + 150(Stag)	5100 + 1000 + 200(Stag)
	03-06-92 (Prom of Brig)	5100 + 1200	5100 + 1200
Note 1 Note 2 Note 3	Even though Rank Pay corresponding to the rank held by the officer on 01/01/86 is Rs 800/-, the difference officer gets now is only Rs 600/- When the officer gets promotion to Colonel, his pay doesn’t get any hike (after revision now) as he was already drawing more than the minimum admissible to Colonel. Pay in the revised scale and pre-revised scale becomes equal on the date of promotion of Brig. i.e. 03-06-92 in this case. Hence, no further arrears are admissible thereafter. It is evident that with every promotion, the difference in Revised & Pre-revised Pay is reducing.

 

Q.3 Ans

Why no further increments have been admitted to me in ‘Revised Pay’ after my Basic Pay reached the scale of Rs. 5100/- w.e.f. 01-06-89 ? My Rank at that time was Lt. Col. During 4th CPC, Rs. 5100/- was the maximum scale admissible for the Ranks from Major to Brig. Maximum scale for Maj. Gen was Rs. 6700/- In case the Basic pay of any officer of the rank of Major, Lt Col or Col reached Rs. 5100/- during 4th CPC, i.e. between 01-01-86 to 31-12-95, the officer was entitled for only two Stagnation Increments which were admissible only after every two years. The rates of Stagnation Increments were Rs. 150/- and Rs. 200/- only. In case of Brigadier, three Stagnation Increments were admissible @ Rs. 200/-, Rs. 300/- and Rs. 400/-.

 

		E.g.
	(i)	In the case of Maj, Lt. Col. & Col.-
		In the revised scale, if the officer reached Rs. 5100/- w.e.f. 01-06-89, 1st Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-91 = Rs. 150/- per month 2nd Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-93 = Rs. 200/- per month No further Stagnation Increment will be admissible on 01-06-95 since only two Stagnation Increments are admissible to Major, Lt. Col and Col.
	(II)	In the case of Brigadier-
		In the revised scale, if the officer reached Rs. 5100/- w.e.f. 01-06-89, 1st Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-91 = Rs. 200/- per month 2nd Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-93 = Rs. 300/- per month 3rd Stagnation Increment admissible w.e.f. 01-06-95 = Rs. 400/- per month

 

 

 

Truth and Deceit: IV CPC Rank Pay Case: Part III

Part III

DSR 1987 Regulation has equated time scale Lt Col, even if substantive after 24 years of service, equivalent to Major. This equation was not laid in paragraph 65 of Regulation 1962. This has caused financial loss to the non-selection list of officers. It should be noted that Time scale Lt Col were given the pay scale of Lt Col on completion of 21 yrs of service by the V CPC. Such officers were promoted to the rank of Col with implementation of A V Singh committee recommendations and are drawing pay and grade pay of Col after 6 CPC.

            Regulation for Army is a administrative document and is not required to        include any instructions concerning financial implications. That being  so, Regulation of    1962 edition did not include any financial clause in this  administrative document,  whereas 1987 Regulation did include      financial clause under para 66(i) by     incorporating amendment like “non  selection officers will count against officers          in the rank of Major”.

              Perhaps the ‘Rank pay’ factor was not catered for, but the definition of rank     pay is  very clear and needs to be implemented now both at IV as well as V  CPC. This has  concurrence of the MoF as per letter of 29 Feb 2000. It will restore pay and             pension denied since 1986 to date.

DGL            The DGL as submitted by the Service HQ’s to MoD is the ‘Apt’ Document fully

fully          implementing the directive of the apex court incorporating all the judgment    clauses. It needs to be persued by the Services to ensure that the ends of justice     are fully met. It has all the tables which are exhaustive for each rank from Capt to    Brig till 6 CPC corrections. Extract of that has been given in Part II. This was  obtained through RTI.To that end the Do Letter by COSC to MoD holds good and    has been put on this blog earlier.

          Pension for Pre 1986 retirees

            The pre 1986 retiree officers have been given notional rank pay with minimum for            each rank as revealed in their PPO.eg Major given pension of 3400 plus RP 600 and      Lt Col given 3900+RP 800 etc.

            Q         How is their pension set to change?

            A         Once the minimum for each rank as given in para 6 (a)(ii) is changed which has been reflected in Part I the pension will change accordingly as the minimum will go up.This will also change at V CPC and then to minimum of pay in pay band at 6 CPC  which is given in the table that follows.

Revised Pension for Pre 2006 Retirees

The pension being given to pre 2006 retires (officers) is based on 50% of  sum of minimum of pay band plus grade pay plus Military Service Pay ie (37400+8000+6000) = 25700 in case of Lt Col. As per Committee of Secy’s Report formulated by the Prime Minister to go into the pay and pension anomalies of Ex Servicemen; the pension would be based on 50% of the minimum of the pay in the pay band as per rank held on 1/1/2006 plus grade pay plus MSP. For example for Lt Col the revised pension would be 50% of (42120+8700+6000) = 28410. Diff (28410-25700=2710) and 72 % DA thereon wef 01 July 2012. A table showing the revised pension is given from the rank of Capt to Brig.

 

Rank	Existing Pension as on 1/1/2006	Revised Pension as on 1/1/2006	Diff in Pension	Family Pension
	50% of Min of pay band +GP+MSP	50% of Min of pay in pay band as per rank +GP+MSP		60% of Revised pension
Captain	15600+6100+6000=13850	19350+6600+6000=15975	2125	9585
Major	15600+6600+6000=14100	26650+7600+6000=20125	6025	12075
Lt Colonel	37400+8000+6000=25700	42120+8700+6000=28410	2710	17046
Colonel	37400+8700+6000=26050	46050+8900+6000=30475	4425	18285
Brigadier	37400+8900+6000=26150	48870+10000+6000=32435	6285	19461

 

Note:  The figures quoted are the ones which will change when the HSC order of 04 Sept 2012 is implemented in toto. As of date changes have been made as recommended by Committee of Secys of the MoD letter applicable from 24 Sept 2012 the arrears of which will be paid by PDAs hopefully in Apr 2013.

 

Q         When will pension arrears be paid by PCDA Pension Allahabad?

A.        Once the correct fixation has been done, CDAO Pune will fwd Last Pay Certificate (LPC) in respect of each officer to PCDA Pension Allahabad who in turn will work out the pension arrears from the time the officer retired till date. This will be remitted separately by PCDA pension through the banks. As on date no LPC has been recd by PCDA Pension.

 

Q.        What happens to increase in pay of officers who got promoted after 1/1/1986?

A         The minimum for each rank from Capt to Brig at IV CPC has to undergo change in terms of para 6 (a)(ii) of SAI 1987, which is very much part of the HSC judgment. Once that is done their minimum and DA admissible thereon will change through V CPC to 6 CPC eg Capt to 3000, Maj from 3400 to 4050, Lt Col from 3900 to 4700 etc. This logic equally holds good in case of officers who were in service as on 1/1/1986 and retired pre 1986.

 

 This is the only way by which this historical rank pay anomaly can be resolved in keeping with the directions of the HSC order dated 04 Sept 2012. Anything short of it would be violation of HSC order and lead to contempt proceedings.

 

The Truth and Deceit: IV CPC Rank Pay Case: Part II

Part II

From the above it is crystal clear that the rank pay was deducted twice. Once at the time of fixing the minimum initial pay for each rank from Capt to Brig in terms of para 6 (a) (ii) of SAI of 1987, and again at the time for calculation of emoluments which has been partially corrected now after the SC order. In most cases even the 20% fitment weightage was denied. 

The increased minimum initial pay at IV CPC will have a cascading effect on the pay scales at the V CPC as the integrated scale was replaced by individual rank based pay scales. Rank pay was also deducted at the time of pay fixation of V CPC both at the time of deciding on the rank based pay scales as well as at the time of fixation. The existing pay scales of V CPC are depressed scales based on the lowered minimum for each rank at IV CPC which needs to be corrected. Accordingly the new scales would be as given

 

Rank/Pay Scale	Existing as per SAI 1997 at V CPC	Revised scales w/o deduction of rank pay at V CPC
Captain	9600-300-11400 +RP 400	10000-300-11800+ RP 400
Major	11925-325-14850+RP1200	12800-325-16050 + RP 1200*
Lt Col	13500-400-17100+RP 1600	15100-400-18700+RP1600
Colonel	15100-450-17350+RP 2000	17100-400-19350+RP 2000
Brigadier	16700-450-18050+RP 2400	19100-450-20450+RP 2400

 

* Note:  The corresponding Civil scale of Major of 4100/4500, were rationalized and merged and given 14300-400-18300. Here again the Majors were given a raw deal.

Once this is implemented, then for VI CPC, the minimum of pay in the pay band and grade pay will correspondingly increase.

Rank		Existing / Revised Scales	Pay in the pay band	Grade Pay	MSP	Total Pay	Diff
Captain	Existing Revised	9600+400 RP 10000+400RP	18600 19350	6100 6600	6000 6000	30700 31950	1250
Major	Existing Revised	11600+1200RP 13125+1200RP	23810 26650	6600 7600	6000 6000	36410 40250	3840
Lt Colonel	Existing Revised	13500+1600RP 15100+1600RP	38530 42120	8000 8700	6000 6000	52530 56820	4290
Colonel	Existing Revised	15100+2000RP 17100+2000RP	40890 46050	8700 8900	6000 6000	55590 60950	5360
Brigadier	Existing Revised	16700+2400RP 19100+2400RP	43390 48870	8900 10000	6000 6000	58290 64870	6580

                       

Q         Was rank pay as admissible to Lt Col paid to Lt Col (TS)?

 A         No, neither at IV CPC nor at V CPC.

 Q         What is the definition of rank pay?

 A         Rank pay as defined by the IV CPC states’ Rank pay is admissible to an officer appropriate to the rank actually held, either in acting or substantive capacity, in addition to the pay in the revised scale. It is also stated therein that rank pay forms part of basic pay. It has been further clarified by MoD vide their letter of 29 Feb 2000 that, It is that element of their pay which is identified with their rank, which in turn has a relationship with their scale of pay. It will consequently be taken into account for determining their entitlement to such of those financial benefits/concessions etc including retirement benefits, as are directly related to the basic pay or their pay scales.

 The Army/Navy/Airforce instructions would be amended accordingly. These never got amended and the denial continued.

 Q         What does DSR say on substantive pay?

               A   Changes in DSR 1962 Edition vs 1987 Edition

             Para 65 of 1962 edition

            “Substantive promotion to the rank of Lt Colonel of officers not promoted by selection

            under para 66 below, against the authorized establishment of Lt Cols, may be made,

            subject to their being considered fit in all  respects by time –scale, on completion of 24

           years reckonable commissioned service provided they  have not attained the age of

           compulsory retirement. Officer so promoted will not  be reckoned, against the authorised

           establishment of Lt Cols, but will be held in the separate ‘non-selection’ list, except that

           an officer selected to act as a Lt Col before completing 24 years service and made

           substantive under this rule on completing 24 years’ reckonable service will be held

           against an authorized Lt Col appointment”.         

 

           Para  66(i) of 1987 edition

 

           “Substantive promotion to the rank of Lt Col of officers not promoted by selection

        against the authorized establishment of Lt Cols, may be made, subject to their being

         considered fit in all  respects, by time scale, on completion of 21 years reckonable

         commissioned service but not more than 26 years reckonable commissioned service

          provided they  have not become due for retirement on the basis of the age of

         superannuation prescribed for the rank time scale of Lt Col. Officers so promoted will not
 not be reckoned, against the authorized establishment of Lt Cols, but will be held in the

            separate ‘non-selection’ list.  The number of officers held on the ‘non selection’ list

         and   will count against the authorized establishment of officers in the
rank of Major”.  Concluded 

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