Saturday, April 21, 2018


RETIRED DEFENCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION (RDOA)

MINUTES OF THE EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL MEETING HELD ON 15TH APRIL 2018 AT DSOI DHAULA KUAN, NEW DELHI-110010 AT 1100 HRS

1.            Extraordinary General Body Meeting (EGM) of the ‘Retired Defence Officers             Association’ (RDOA) was held on 15th Apr 2018 at 1100 hrs at DSOI Dhaula           Kuan, New Delhi-110010. House assembled at 1030 hrs, because of lack of           quorum it was adjourned for half an hour and reassembled at 1100 hrs. The        meeting was attended by 28 officers.
AGENDA POINT NO.1
Welcome address by the President RDOA: Lt Col BK Sharma (Retd)

2.         President  welcomed all the members to the (EGM). He gave an overview of the important issues taken up by RDOA with various authorities since last AGM. He informed the house the state of membership as on 15th Apr 2018.

3.         EGM has been called basically to elect office bearers and present the provisional accounts of FY 2017 – 2018 for the information of the House. However points have been called from members to have interactive sessions. Only five nominations forms were received. Same were forwarded to Returning Officer and Asst Returning Officer. Our Sincere thanks to Col VK Suri and Lt Col R Ramamurthy who willingly accepted GBM’s request to act as Returning Officer & Assistant  Returning Officer respectively for conduct of election. He said Returning officer Col VK Suri shall be announcing the result immediately after opening address.      
4.          The President then read out the names of members who had contributed towards association’s corpus fund since Last AGM. He said that only important and authentic information is put on association’s blog “rdoaindia.blogspot.com” which is updated regularly. He requested all members to motivate other officers to join RDOA to strengthen RDOA’s objectives. The amended rules and regulations for RDOA as recommended by the         committee constituted have been forwarded to the Registrar of societies for approval. The same is being pursued. 

5.      The President emphasized once again in informing members that not even a single penny has been expended   by any of the office   bearers on transport, telephones, internet and secretarial support from association’s fund which speaks of high credibility and dedication of the team.

6.       President then proceeded  with the remaining agenda points.

AGENDA POINT NO. 2
 Result Election Governing body, RDOA on 15th April 2018.

7.      Nomination for the President, Vice President,  Secretary,  Joint Secretary and Treasurer were asked from members for which wide publicity was given through RDOA blog, display of notices at prominent places and by email. Only five nominations for the above posts were received till 31st Mar 2018.

8       Col VK Suri, the Returning Officer declared and announced the following elected unopposed:-
(a)  Lt Col  BK Sharma    as    President
(b)  Major  AR Ghosh       as    Vice President
(c)  Col  Rajiv Kakra         as    Secretary
(d)  Lt Col  JP Rai             as    Joint Secretary
(e)  Col Vijay Kumar         as    Treasurer

AGENDA POINT NO.3
Confirmation of Minutes of the AGM held on 20th Aug 2017

9.      The salient points of the meeting of the AGM held on 20th Aug 2017 were read out to the members. There being no observation, the minutes were passed duly proposed by Lt Col Vinay Khanna  (M. No. 2220) and seconded by Lt Col AC Sharma (M. No. 1669).
AGENDA POINT NO. 4
Presentation of Provisional Accounts for FY 2017-2018.

10.   President presented the Provisional Accounts for the FY 2017- 2018 as the same is yet to be audited by the chartered accountant on availability of TDS Certificate from the bank. He further briefed the members on the state of A/c, comparative state of A/c for the last five years, merger of three A/c heads under one head and FDRs. 

11.    Members did not raise any observation/ query.

AGENDA POINT NO.5
Progress of Court Cases

12.    President briefed the members on the ongoing progress of the court cases, On the query from one of the members that RDOA should join various ongoing litigations to be filed in various other matters in AFT. The President explained that in law intervention is a procedure to allow intervener to join ongoing litigations with  the  permission of the court and with the consent of original litigants. However RDOA as an association cannot file intervention applications in AFT. He suggested that effected officers on various matters should form a group and file the case in AFT.      

13.    The house also unanimously agreed that intervention application should be undertaken only for such cases where the veterans are affected / benefited.

AGENDA POINT NO.6
Points from Members

14.   Following points were received from members:-
        (a)  3600,  Wg Cdr CPN Singh (Retd)
               (i)   For re-fixation in the 6th Pay Commission arrears from 1 Jan 2006 to 30 Jun  
                2014, before implementation of OROP on 1 Jul 2014. Legal Case be filed in AFT  
                for members of RDOA. If money is required as legal fees, it  may be intimated.

(ii)          Status of NFU case be intimated please.

(iii)         The Status on all Lt Col and equivalent having more than 26 years of service to get the pension of Colonel (Time Scale).

(iv)         Progress of  OROP case in SC.


Decision

                 (i)       Already explained in agenda point No. 5.
                 (ii)     NFU. Next date of hearing as per available information is 20th Apr 2018.
                 (iii)   Service HQ has taken up this issue with MOD.
                 (iv)   OROP. Likely date of hearing is last week of April.  

         (b)      2487, WG SC Sikka (RETD)
          Not with standing that the EGM is being held for a specific Purpose, I will appreciate    
          if the members are also informed about various burning issues, whether in respect of    
          various court cases or matters pending in MOD.

Decision   President briefed the members on various matter taken up by RDOA with the concerned authorities.

         (c)      3659,  Air Commandore KR Bali (Retd)

 Dear Lt Col BK Sharma,
I am presently at Tokyo, Japan & Shall be returning on 23 April evening. This is regarding the proposed EGM proposed EGM to be held on 15th April at DSOI Dhaula Kuan. I wish to formally convey to all present in the said EGM and the Returning Officer that Lt Col Sharma must continue as the President in view of his very significant and selfless services rendered to ESM community in the past. If voting does take place, this e-mail be considered as my Vote for Lt Col BK SHARMA as President.
Thanks and with Best Wishes. May God bless us all!!
Air Commodore KR Bali AVSM VSM mob: 9958947799

Decision -     The President thanked the member for this appreciation for the RDOA.

AGENDA POINT NO.7
Any other Point with the Permission of the Chair

15. Following points were raised by the members present in the meeting:-

       (a)    1145, Lt Col  SK Vashisht   

(i)         The Supreme Court has in the case of CGHS ruled that the right to medical claim cannot be denied merely because the name of the hospital is not included in the government empanelled hospitals.  The officer stated that the same should be applicable for ECHS also.
(ii)       The issue of NA medicine with ECHS polyclinic should be resolved.

Decision- The RDOA governing body held a meeting with MD ECHS on the above issues during March 2018. Appointment has been asked for with the GOC     Delhi Area/Station Cdr on the above issues.

      (b)    2220, Lt Col  Vinay Khanna

               (i)  RDOA is an All India basis organization and wider publicity should be given to     co-opt more members. PCDA (Pensions) and CDA (O) should be approached to    
             get the details of new retirees.

    (ii)  News letter should be sent to all concerned through email or by post.

Decision -     Col. VK Suri explained that the RDOA has neither  support staff nor finances available for the above. The President briefed all members that all information is being put up on the Blogspot. He has been travelling at his own expense and meeting, briefing officers at each station and motivating them to join RDOA. The above suggestions will be looked into   

AGENDA POINT NO.8
Vote of Thanks
16.       Meeting was closed at 1300hrs with a vote of thanks proposed by Lt Col SK  
            Vashisht  (M. No. 1145) and seconded by Major NK Gadeock (M. No. 1397). Most 
           of the members got themselves examined by a team of Medicos part of free Health 
            Camp which was Organised by Jeevan Sudharo Welfare Society.


PRESIDENT/ SECRETARY, RDOA
9871351203, 9212252627, 9560084477

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

One thing is clear from the Pranab Mukherjee report that armed forces are definitely inferior services as compared to any civil services/Babus in matters of pay, pension, perks, status etc. Govt. wants that way.

Pranab Mukherjee and Manmohan Singh (& now Modi) both have failed to address the genuine concern of the Armed Forces. Why was the rank pay cut out from the basic pay and shown separately in the 4th pay commission? It was a ploy to reduce the status and other financial entitlements of the defence officers from Captain rank till Maj Gen.

Basic pay scales of Lt Col & Col after the third CPC were Rs 1750-1950 and Rs 1950-2175 respectively, higher than that of the civilian Director/SSP/Commandant who got Rs 1650-1800.

Because of the conspiracy (cutting the rank pay out of basic pay and showing it separately after 4th CPC and then not considering rank pay for fixing the basic pay scale in subsequent pay commissions), today Lt Col is placed at level 12A (Rs 121200 - Rs 212400) lower than the civilian Director/SSP/Commandant who is placed higher at level 13 (Rs 123100 - Rs 215900). Colonel who was higher than the Director has now been clubbed with the Director, both being at level 13 in the pay matrix.

Basic pay scale of Major after the third CPC was Rs 1550-1900, higher than that of civilian JAG/Dy Sec who got Rs 1500-2000.

Today Major is placed at level 11 (Rs 69400 - Rs 207200) lower than the civilian JAG/Dy Sec who is placed higher at level 12 (Rs 78800- Rs 209200).

For all practical purposes, GOI equates Lt Col (level 12A) with civilian JAG/Dy Sec (level 12). After level 12 of Dy Sec, level 13 should have been given to the Lt Col but deliberately it was given as 12A and not 13. So much for the cunningness/shrewdness of the Babus.


It is a very sad development that our own Govt. is responsible for taking away 'izzat o insaaf' of/from the defenders of the nation. The top brass of the armed forces seems not to be in a position to get this sad state of affairs reversed.

Who will like to join the Indian Armed Forces? The left overs who could not get a job in civil sector or the ignorant ones or some die-hard nationalists like Bhagat Singh.

Anonymous said...

Can RDOA do anything on the subject I touched upon in the above comment?

If it does, it will benefit tens of thousands of the Majors, Lt Cols and Cols, both serving and retired.

Sunlit said...

@ Dr. (Wg Cdr) Though your views about parity with civilian pay-scales may have had some validity in the past, due to the current shorter time-spans for promotions in Officer cadre in armed forces, the whole issue of parities with civilians needs to be analyzed afresh.

But as RDOA have so painstakingly elaborated on such issues in the past on this very blog, we can focus more on disparities amongst our own ESM pensioners before tackling complex and less straight-forward matters like one-to-one equations with civilian pensioners.

In the past, I had tried to bring out these issues by joining discussions on blog-posts in this blog as well as by highlighting discriminatory aspects of pension fixations for ESM, as here : https://goo.gl/dVSvaS

Unknown said...

Have you ever heard of "piddly probationer"
IAS people respect their officers.
Educate yourself and new generation of defence to respect their post and position as well that of their subordinates
God save us all as only he can